Titanfall 3 - Please Start With Titanfall 1

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  1. ensc

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    Just want to put it out there awhile.

    It is glaringly obvious from all of the reviews that the developers went the wrong direction in many areas with Titanfall 2. Please, don't waste a second trying to put lipstick on a pig.

    Start today, by going back to the game we all loved, Titanfall 1, add some new maps, some good matchmaking, some policing of cheaters, maybe unlimited Gen/Level with random increasingly difficult challenges, and we're good.

    Titanfall 1 was awesome!!! Titanfall 2 is a failure before it has even left the gate. When working on Titanfall 3, please start with the one that was awesome and don't mess with what made it great.
     
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  2. Trini Chinese

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    i was looking at some videos and played part 1 last night and from the tech test i could appreciate the new graphic on the new map as there is a difference , made me think or wonder what other maps are in the new game , even doe the new maps are not what i am to expect but with a bit of tweaking to the settings there may be some possibility there . as i was thinking what the new 3 extra titans could do as they may have some different weapons to help balance out , but also the ttk and some other thing may need a bit of tweaking and some building layout , even on hard point with out AI the player cap i thing is too low and need a buff to 12 vs 12 rather than 8 vs 8 .
    the reason i say this is because the most noticeable thing that you notice is the empty nest feel that is around the ambiance is not there but they may put in in in the full game .

    i am hoping that there are a lot more game modes in the game to cater for different play-styles.
     
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    ps i was thinking of titanfall so much i had a dream i was wall running lol wow what an experience lol.
     
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    Dude, dude!!!!!! Positive it up a little... I know its your personal opinion and i dont want to be a dick as I havent played it yet.... But come on, have you seen some of the plays people have posted? Still has titanfall in it to my eye. It is still a work in progress!, And with time the nuances of the game will emerge....
     
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    i agree with Guyver with this ensc , don't let the tech test reviews get you frustrated. am keeping an open mind for this weekend to see what is new as far as gameplay and new info , we shall see how thing goes , as for the full launch here's hopping to a great campaign mode and i think when you play the new game there will be something there for you as the game may play better on pc than on a controller. only time will tell on the outcome of the game mate , be positive i understand the frustration but everything will be alright.
     
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    #6 rainman0211, Aug 23, 2016
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    Posted edited, user warned.
     
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    Best thing I've read all day
     
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    That Dream was like wow lol no joke , all i know i was just taking a walk down the street i did a jump and boom am wall running chain running , mannn i ran the complete building and when i was done i be like WHAT THE !!! i gotta do that more often lol. what a dream doe .
     
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    I've found myself viewing the environment around me irl as potential wall runs and flag routes... Pffft a man can dream. :rolleyes:
     
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    Agree 100%
     
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    Thank you A4, appreciate it. Sometimes I feel like an island. :)

    I thought this post would be very well received with all of the negative feedback, but it can be very discouraging, because many who were first out of the gate to criticize the game had already decided to compromise and give Respawn the benefit of the doubt when they deserve no such thing, because they moved in the wrong direction, degrading TF1 to be more COD-like, rather than an improved version of TF. Now, the compromises many are now viewing as gifts are only going to be slightly undoing the horrible changes and will still leave us at not as good as TF1 and still leaning in the wrong direction of where the game should have gone. It should have gone in this direction: easier ways to get titans, stronger titans, wallrunning titans, bunny hopping made easy. Instead we got a watered down version of TF to appease COD players.

    Please let me demonstrate how rediculous it was to do this:

    Titanfall - we had 1 game in our playground (and we still only have 1)

    Call Of Duty - had 14 games in their playground (and now they have 15)

    Call of Duty
    Call of Duty 2
    Call of Duty 3

    Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
    Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Remastered

    Call of Duty: World at War
    Call of Duty: Black Ops
    Call of Duty: Black Ops II
    Call of Duty: Black Ops III

    Call of Duty: Ghosts
    Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
    Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare

    Call of Duty: Titanfall Edition (aka Titanfall 2)

    If COD players want to play COD, then they should have gone to play COD, but stay out of Titanfall. As you can see they had more than a large enough playground.

    If developers wanted to create another COD game, then they should have gone over there and created one, but allow the developers who are passionate about what made TF1 great to create a game that if anything would have moved more in the direction of discouraging COD players from entering (wall running titans, more bunny hopping, etc.)
     
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    i my self looking at all the videos still and from the game play i experience form the last tech test hope that the second feels better , hope that they really fix what they stated . i am trying to keep an open mind to the full game as i do enjoy a good story campaign and multiplayer second. i really want respawn to do good with this game and i am keeping my fingers cross . that and i want to see what there original take would be like for future games like Star Wars only time will tell .
    i would admit we are in the tick of it i am impressed with the community and how they know what they like even if we all don't like the same things it's goo to know that the community has a say in making change to a better product and the lessons learn by the power of voice and reason .
    i can say one thing for sure if respawn does not deliver it the backlash from fans will be very unforgiving . and with that hope this sends a real message to the dev's and publishers that our eyes are open and will not tolerate noting but excellence and innovation .
    call of duty , i really don't know how they survived for so long . i guess it's a different generation .
    i hope other devs look at the formula that titanfall 1 has and take from this and build on this concept . you never know the possibility are endless.


    PS esnc , i was posting an idea today on the official site and your concept for more titan commands other than the ones that are implemented . and was thinking it would have been cool to give the titans attack and defend commands instead of letting the titans chose there target but rather to point out a target to attack similar to how battlefield do with the squad commands . this would be cool.
     
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    #14 ensc, Aug 26, 2016
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    Your a good guy Trini. I like your Titan commands idea and thanks for the video.

    As far as TF2, honestly, I am not going to be happy unless they remove all of the dampeners they put in place completely. There was no reason to put them in place in the first place and just a partial undo is not enough. At least get all movement back to the way it was in TF1. Pilots should move as freely. Titans should move as well as they did in the first one. Titans should have the timers again. Titans shields should regenerate again. They should also keep the new titans, but include the 3 old titan classes as is as well. When they said they were adding new titans, that is what I thought they were doing. Leaving those and adding new ones. I want my Stryder back with the same customizable loadouts. If they put all that back, then maybe it will be acceptable. However, it should have been that way in the first place to avoid all the stress they've cause everyone, so throw in the smart pistol exactly as it was in the first one (no watering down) and we'll call it even. we more than deserve that to tick off the COD guys as kind of a sweet revenge for having catered the game to them in the first looks at this version. Everything should be done to discourage them from coming into our playground. As you can see above, if they don't like it, they already have a playground 14X larger than ours, so go cry over there.

    Oh, and get rid of the gay rodeo animation crap. Put the old rodeo back where you are actually doing it (not watching 2 little movies to oohh encourage team play, get that team play crap out of here). An improvement would be remove all animations. Cut scenes like at beginning of Demeter are awesome, but during game, NO ANIMATIONS. My Titan shouldn't be taking damage and lose it's shields and half it's health because you want me to watch myself getting in it. Rediculous!!! Same with the old rodeo. Don't just put it back, but get rid of the mounting animation. One of their teamates can spot me and have me dead by the time you get done playing your stupid little animation.
     
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  15. Trini Chinese

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    thanks for the complement bro.
    i agree with what you said with the titans as far as i thought the same as you that the original titans were going to be in the game with new ones , and i was also hoping that the class system that they made the titans would be locked in with core abilities example the ion with it's lazer core and so on, and was hoping that the titans would be able to change there weapon load out .

    as for the rodeo it's a hit or miss for me on that as i do like the concept of the battery removal but i also like the rip the hull off and shoot the titan what i don;t like is the amount of damage the first rodeo did as i think a hit and run tactic would have been better same rodeo but do a reasonable amount of damage and toss off the titan.

    the 3rd person animation when getting into the titans am also on the fence on this but i could understand what some gamers say that the transition is a bit disorienting and the original style was better even there pax prime interview they said that the reason it was not like this was for that very same reason .

    i am very curious to what the other titans have for weapons .

    you know what would be funny and a bit ironic , is if COD make a game for next year and they took all that made the first titan fall with the new concept of titanfall 2 and refine it into a game we would play and even the same or better that what we would expect from them . that would be a sight to see lol just thinking about would be like am i living in the twilight zone what is going on here,lol

    ps did you pre order your collector edition yet bro don't take too long . remember you could always sell the game . that helmet bro.
     
  16. ThirdGuyver

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    Ensc, i appreciate your dissapointed massively, I'm gonna be so gutted if I dislike the game, but, in my personal opinion, some of your comments have an one sided spin 'against' people who actually may like the game so far : "deciding to compromise" "seeing as gifts"?? That may be just your perception of the situation?
     
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    #17 ensc, Aug 26, 2016
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    Thanks Trini, you always give good feedback, yes that would be ironic if they made the next version of COD be like what we wanted TF2 to be. Ooohhhh would the COD boys be ticked. Actually, I'd take that as a fair trade. They want to crap in our pool, we should get to crap in theirs, especially when our pool was small so that crap really stinks. At least their pool is already big so it would be diluted.

    ThirdGuyver, I realize my comments may seem one-sided, but you have to see things from my perspective too. I love Titanfall (the first one) more than any other video game I've ever played. I've probably spent more time with it than anything else (except sleep and work) in the last 29 months. It is like my baby. However there were some things I was hoping were improved by TF2 (matchmaking, policing of cheaters, user base). Now, if I don't like this version, what do I have? I will probably have to wait another 2 or 3 years for TF3 only to see if I might like that, but if they start from TF2 instead of doing the right thing and going back to TF1, I'm not sure if TF3 would even be good. So, I have to wait another 2 or 3 years for something that may end up not being worth wating for. Meanwhile, all I have is TF1 and with an even lower user base than it already had, because some of those people will move to TF2, and it will still have the non-existent matchmaking and cheaters running wild.

    Any why did this happen? In my personal opinion, the developers listened to COD players more than they listened to Titanfall players. This is what led to headlines like this, "‘Titanfall 2’ Feels Like a Game Designed by People Who Hated the Original". I mean, I'm not making up the backlash they've received.

    The reason I may get passionate about this is because as I've shown above, COD already had a 14-game playground. We had 1. One stinking game! That's it. So rather than move in the right direction and make Titanfall have more of what made Titanfall great (more wallrunning paths, bunny hopping easier for everyone, perhaps even a jet pack boost like in Battlefront so you could stand face to face with a titan take a shot at him and then jet pack away from his retaliatory strike, stronger titans, faster titans, wallrunning titans on larger maps), instead since COD guys HATE all that stuff, because it prevents them from sitting in their stationary spot and getting kill streaks, they chose to go in the exact opposite direction and dampen everything that made Titanfall great.

    I know some will disagree with me, especially the COD guys who had the developers ears. The reason I get so passionate though is for the people in the middle, because sometimes people need shock therapy to wake up a little bit to things like I have in bold above. Some are like that guy in the first "Ghostbusters". "We're going to need to take a sample of your brain tissue." "Uh, OK." We're going to remove some of what we dampened because of all of the backlash. "Uh, OK"

    NO, as I've shown above Respawn went in the exact oppositve direction of where they should have and they deserve to be chastised for it. Just removing some of what they dampened is not good enough. We're still not even back to where TF1 was, when instead it should have started in the exact opposite direction as something that was even more Titanfall than what the first one was.

    Think about it this way, it is like Respawn took a big knife and stuck it in the back of Titanfall players. Now the Titanfall players are like, "Hey, why did you stick a knife in my back?" And now, Respawn is like, "Oh, I'm sorry, let me pull that halfway out for you." And a lot of people are going, "Wow! you are great! Thanks for listening to me." NO!!! You still have a knife stuck halfway in your back when instead of stabbing you in the back they should have given you a gift of Titanfall 2 awesomemess that COD guys wouldn't want to get anywhere near. They owed that to you for all the $millions they made off of the first one. And for those of you who think I'm going overboard, please let me repeat the actual headline for you in case you forgot already:
    "‘Titanfall 2’ Feels Like a Game Designed by People Who Hated the Original"
    (I didn't write it, someone else did, Google it, and it is only one of the many)
     
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